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Valerievna
05-22-2008, 06:36 PM
Has someone hurt you lately or even in the past and you just havent been able to forgive them??

well here's a solution for your hurt, pain and forgiveness skills.

if you read the following verses that are found in Matthew 6:9-13 (its the lords prayer).... i know everyone has heard it atleast once in your life

9"This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10your kingdom come,
your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us today our daily bread.
12Forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.

There is a point to what im trying to say.... and here it is:

if you reread verse 12, it reads this: 12Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.

What i am trying to say is forgive the way God has forgiven us when we ask for it. BUT the people who has sinned against you may not ask for the forgiveness or even know they did wrong doing to you but this is the time you can go up to these people and tell them that you forgive them for what they have done, or ask for their forgiveness for what you have done against them.... if they ask what do you mean, explain to them what you did behind their backs and ask for their forgiveness. if they do not accept it then God will deal with them, as long as you know you asked for the forgiveness from this (these) people there is nothing more you can do.

here are two examples from my life (of many!!)
Example 1:

My brother and i do not have a close relationship with each other and when we were a couple of years younger ( i was about 9 and he was 12) he would always come up to me and punch me and then we would get into a fight about it. When he turned 14 (and went into high school) he got more agressive and i would ask him to stop but he never did... he reminded me of my "birth mother" (she used to abuse me and my brother... my dad died when i was young and my step dad died aswell.... quick story about what i mean my birth mother). By the time i was 11 i really started to feel abandoned and not part of the brother sister family... i would see my friends hanging out with their brothers and having a fun time where for me i would be verbally abused at or getting spat in the face by him (gross is all i got to say) But this was also the time where i felt God had abandoned me during this time and by the time i turned 13 or so i turned away from God... but i still had to go to church cus my mother was head of the Sunday school program and i was suppose to be the "angel" as my friends would say to me. I really felt like there was nothing for me to do i was being made fun of at school by one of my best friends at the time ( im from russia and i live in canada by this time) she would always come up to me and told me that this isnt Russia and no one liked me and to go back to Russia where i should have staid instead of being adopted. I swore i would never forgive anyone at that school because even though they saw it going on they did nothing.... not even stick up and tell people that it is not the right thing to do.

A couple of nights ago i got a call from my brother and by the end of the conversation i told him i forgive him for breaking my heart and just pulling me down for many years. his response to that came as a surprise he said to me: "Valerievna (Valeri) you are the first person to ever say that to me in the past 3 years and i thank you for forgiving me for what i did to you." THAT is what broke my heart after the conversation is him sayin i was the first in 3 years... COME ON people we need to start forgiving and forgetting about the past but look to what is happening now and for the future!

Eample 2: (not as long)

When i wasnt right with God going into grade nine i had a big attitude and a HUGE mouth on me... i thought i was the first "it person" around my town... no one would mess with me because they knew i was a fighter not a lover. One day a rumor was spread about me that wasnt true and when i heard what it was i went to the person that told it and i flipped out on her (not in a physical way but verbal... seeing as the teacher was there) and about 2 years later i went up to her (this year that is) and i was like look Danielle do you remember the time in gym class i freaked out at you? (she gave me a weird look and said somethings i didnt want to hear but thats life for you) at this point i knew she still was not too happy about what happened (and us ladies when we fight in high school it will last all high school... we never give up trying to get back at each other!!)

So i was like well i hope you find it in your heart to forgive me for what i did to you, it wasnt right and i should not have done that. and i went into more detail of what happened... but after that it felt like a huge burden had been lifted off my shoulder!

i would like to leave you guys with this last verse: matthew 18:21-35
21Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?"
22Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.

So basically never stop forgiving people for their wrong doing towards you but also remember when you forgive people from your heart and start a clean new slate with them (a clean new blackboard type of thing)

forgive me for this being soo LONG!!!!

LauraA
05-29-2008, 07:42 AM
I didn't even see this post before today. Wow. This is awesome. Thank you so much for writing this all up for us. It's excellent! I'm very proud of you for going to people and asking forgiveness, as well as forgiving those who have hurt you.

I was hurt by my ex-husband (many years ago), and you can read about that in my testimony. I forgive him, but I've never had the opportunity to tell him that. Somehow, I think he knows.

Haven
05-29-2008, 12:33 PM
Idk really..Its not that anyone has hurt me at all, its just that what I have seen from other people that I dont know, is what hurts me, you know like what they say about Jesus, or how they avoid Him, I wish I could do more, but with some people...they just dont want anything to do with Jesus Christ, so it really hurts.:(

fireproof
05-29-2008, 01:59 PM
Great post indeed. Spot on!

themadclipper
05-29-2008, 07:05 PM
Forgiveness is the basis of our faith and hope, because God loved us while we were still His enemies and we were incapable of love or forgiveness.

LauraA
05-29-2008, 07:15 PM
^^^ Exactly, yes.

Valerievna
05-29-2008, 07:38 PM
Idk really..Its not that anyone has hurt me at all, its just that what I have seen from other people that I dont know, is what hurts me, you know like what they say about Jesus, or how they avoid Him, I wish I could do more, but with some people...they just dont want anything to do with Jesus Christ, so it really hurts.:(

hey Haven i read this today and i think this could help you:

its found in 2nd corinthians 4:16:

16Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day.


So pretty much dont lose heart, or faith in God working in these peoples lives... but leave it in God's hands after you have told them becuase you have done your job and planted the seed in their lives.

A friend of mine always went up to people and just told them if they didnt believe in God they were going to hell... after a while he got known as the bible thumper and no one wanted to be around him... not even me... not becuase of him being called a bible thumper but the way he was going around saying that... yea it may be true but you can say it in a better way and reach out to people in a different way, so i talked to him about it and hes not like that anymore... which is great.

Haven i hope this helps you.


god bless you guys!

krazyyouth
05-29-2008, 10:36 PM
hey Valerievna well im proud of you and yes i have been hurt bt some one mine was with a pastor with the church i had gone to and that but i forgave the man but i didnt forget what he had said to me because they proves even in the church you can be told how you should worship. so yes i do worshp but its hard because i dont know if they are going to say something to me. so im really careful now but when i do have the chance like at confrances with the youth oh you bet i worship and they dont saynothing ot me

drey
05-30-2008, 08:23 AM
A question in the subject. My simple answer. Yes.

LauraA
06-07-2008, 07:33 AM
Drey, are you doing ok?

almostXbrooklyn
06-09-2008, 01:38 AM
ohman this thread is like definately what i needed...

i have anger issues and i''m not afraid to admit it, but people tend to hurt me a lotttt...

but god has been helping me with this and i don't get nearly as mad as i used to so thats good...

but it's something i still struggle with...

LauraA
06-09-2008, 09:38 AM
Brooklyn, what have you found that helps you deal with anger? I'm going to be praying for you. I know people who struggle with anger and it's a battle. But you know Jesus and He has already provided the victory.