'the name drop' boast

[fireproof]

Aaaah im in a mood for venting so here it is

Im begging to get more and more annoyed with the 'iv met so and so' name dropping that you see every where just now.

It really bugs me when people say ' oh iv met them like X number of times' when asked if they like said band/performer.

Musicians are just people like you and I, so me meeting J would be for me just as significant event as meeting chris, or labby, but using the meeting of said artists as a boast really really irritates me.

Fair enough, if the person has had a positive effect on your life through their ministry then awesome, its great you'v gotten to meet them and express that to them, I have nothing against that.

But nowadays it seems as if it is being used as a boast in a lot of cases and for Chirstians to do that almost in a way undermines what we and some of the artists stand for.

I remember hearing a story about a girl at a J concert. She screamed up at him 'Jeremey I love you so much' and J's reply straight off was 'wow, but how much do you love Jesus?'.

Nowadays I think its easy to get distracted by the band/artist itself rather that what they stand for and its something we need to be very careful of.

Don't get me wrong a few years ago when i was a nu metal-head and was not as secure in God as i am now, i did boast upon meeting Jacoby Shaddix and others, but honestly, none of these incidents changed my life for the better. Looking back now i really wished i hadnt boasted such things.

End of rant.

P.s this is not directed at anyone, just something iv needed to get off my chest in a productive, not harmful way!

[AmandaT]

Good post. I agree with you. I've been annoyed with people for doing it before.

Yet I know I'm guilty of doing some name dropping on occasion. I don't purposefully do it, but I can think of some instances where I said something and then seconds later realized that it probably came off as me boasting.

[Wheels4Jesus]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with talking about artists people have met! As long as your focus is still on God and what their ministry truly is and not just their celebrity status, then I say go for it.

[AmandaT]

I think the original post was more on the issue of boasting about people you've met and remembering that artists are still just people. There's a difference between saying "Jeremy Camp is a personable guy" and saying "I've talked to Jeremy Camp 20 times and we're like best friends now." People often put artists on pedestals and meeting those artists becomes a game of who has met who. Some people think they'll be perceived as being more cool depending on who they have met.

[fireproof]

I think the original post was more on the issue of boasting about people you've met and remembering that artists are still just people. There's a difference between saying "Jeremy Camp is a personable guy" and saying "I've talked to Jeremy Camp 20 times and we're like best friends now." People often put artists on pedestals and meeting those artists becomes a game of who has met who. Some people think they'll be perceived as being more cool depending on who they have met.


That is exactly what I was getting at.

[JC#1Nashvillefan]

yeah I don't see a problem with it either

[AmandaT]

yeah I don't see a problem with it either

You don't see a problem with boasting about who you've met in order to get "cool points" with people?

[JC#1Nashvillefan]

That's not what I meant
I don't want to cool points with people
It's just fun to talk about even though they are just like us. Normal people but being led by God to do music.

[AmandaT]

That's not what I meant
I don't want to cool points with people
It's just fun to talk about even though they are just like us. Normal people but being led by God to do music.

Okay, well that's not really what the original post was about then.

I'm pretty sure fireproof's intention wasn't to say to never talk about musicians ever. His vent was about boasting through name dropping. If you like the music, talk about the music. If you like the ministry, talk about the ministry. I think people so often forget about the actual music.

This is kind separate, but it drives me nuts when someone will start up a conversation about music, but then it turns out that they just want to talk about how cute so-and-so is and how he/she touched their hand once and they almost passed out. If you respect someone's art, then talk about the art. For example, while it may be very true that Hayley Williams is attractive, I doubt that Hayley and the rest of the members of Paramore enjoy the fact that a lot of people ignore their music and focus on how cute Hayley is. You don't do the artist any favors by ignoring what their actual goal is, to make music.

[krazyyouth]

but you know onw thing is i meet one person and all well inkow him like hes a best friends to me thats older than me and i can tell him hey i suppoerts your music and i like and all.. the band thay have JOBS like being a teacher and that jobs that they love they have their band has a side job they do shows and that. How many artist you know that thier jobs pay for them to go on tour?????? it dose bug me because i like music and all i like listing to it and all but it makes me and im sure of others who have never been able to go to concerts because they didnt have a ride or they dont have enough money to go or your the only one who likes that type of music ????? IT makes pepole feel bad its a diffrent story when they have meet someone for the frist time and that and they say all kinds of things about them but when someone gets to say hi to them or say oh your music is great and so one with me i just know one person who i can say hey i like this song and so on it just bigs me to becuase i dont get to see anyone i would like to see in concert i would be lucky to go to the concert i would have been more lucker to been able to go and meet the person !!!!!!!!!!!!

[fireproof]

Okay, well that's not really what the original post was about then.

I'm pretty sure fireproof's intention wasn't to say to never talk about musicians ever. His vent was about boasting through name dropping. If you like the music, talk about the music. If you like the ministry, talk about the ministry. I think people so often forget about the actual music.

This is kind separate, but it drives me nuts when someone will start up a conversation about music, but then it turns out that they just want to talk about how cute so-and-so is and how he/she touched their hand once and they almost passed out. If you respect someone's art, then talk about the art. For example, while it may be very true that Hayley Williams is attractive, I doubt that Hayley and the rest of the members of Paramore enjoy the fact that a lot of people ignore their music and focus on how cute Hayley is. You don't do the artist any favors by ignoring what their actual goal is, to make music.


Again, spot on.

I have been called upon before for referring to hayley williams as hot but only as an afterthought to the music. Though said in jest i realise what i said wasnt apporpriate and i stopped doing it.

We all make mistakes, but its the constant name dropping that really does my nut in!

[ktyme06]

Okay, well that's not really what the original post was about then.

I'm pretty sure fireproof's intention wasn't to say to never talk about musicians ever. His vent was about boasting through name dropping. If you like the music, talk about the music. If you like the ministry, talk about the ministry. I think people so often forget about the actual music.

This is kind separate, but it drives me nuts when someone will start up a conversation about music, but then it turns out that they just want to talk about how cute so-and-so is and how he/she touched their hand once and they almost passed out. If you respect someone's art, then talk about the art. For example, while it may be very true that Hayley Williams is attractive, I doubt that Hayley and the rest of the members of Paramore enjoy the fact that a lot of people ignore their music and focus on how cute Hayley is. You don't do the artist any favors by ignoring what their actual goal is, to make music.

^that last "paragraph" is like exactally how I kinda feel about some fans of bands. like they only like them for their looks(i can name a few bands where this has been true) and it really annoys me. Like them for their music, like them for their personalities(if you have had the chance to meet them). Don't like them for their looks. I will say though...sometimes people do "name drop" and it might seem like they are boasting...and they don't mean to come across that way but it does come across that way to you.

[Wheels4Jesus]

That's not what I meant
I don't want to cool points with people
It's just fun to talk about even though they are just like us. Normal people but being led by God to do music.

I know what you meant, and I think everyone on here should let you say what you want without having to jump down you for what you say. :)

[krazyyouth]

Okay, well that's not really what the original post was about then.

I'm pretty sure fireproof's intention wasn't to say to never talk about musicians ever. His vent was about boasting through name dropping. If you like the music, talk about the music. If you like the ministry, talk about the ministry. I think people so often forget about the actual music.

This is kind separate, but it drives me nuts when someone will start up a conversation about music, but then it turns out that they just want to talk about how cute so-and-so is and how he/she touched their hand once and they almost passed out. If you respect someone's art, then talk about the art. For example, while it may be very true that Hayley Williams is attractive, I doubt that Hayley and the rest of the members of Paramore enjoy the fact that a lot of people ignore their music and focus on how cute Hayley is. You don't do the artist any favors by ignoring what their actual goal is, to make music.

Yeah thats is true the last paregraph.. im guilty of that i did have a crush on an artist and i just ingored their music all i cared about was he was cute and how good he sound not what was behind the song... I have learned that just listien to the song and dont get all caught up into the whole thing yes i do think some artist are cute but i try not to let it get to me and miss the whole point of the song(s). but i am guilty of doing that and i do try my best. Now with one artis or it was band i know listien to their music for the enjoyment and i get the message they are tring to point out

[ktyme06]

Yeah thats is true the last paregraph.. im guilty of that i did have a crush on an artist and i just ingored their music all i cared about was he was cute and how good he sound not what was behind the song... I have learned that just listien to the song and dont get all caught up into the whole thing yes i do think some artist are cute but i try not to let it get to me and miss the whole point of the song(s). but i am guilty of doing that and i do try my best. Now with one artis or it was band i know listien to their music for the enjoyment and i get the message they are tring to point out

yeah...most of us are guilty of that. I admit like I do think guys in the bands I like are cute but that isn't the reason I like the bands. actually most of my favorite bands I would listen to their music and then see pics of them...so I liked them before I even saw them. If that is a reason why you like a band then truthfully you aren't a true fan.

[AmandaT]

yeah...most of us are guilty of that. I admit like I do think guys in the bands I like are cute but that isn't the reason I like the bands. actually most of my favorite bands I would listen to their music and then see pics of them...so I liked them before I even saw them. If that is a reason why you like a band then truthfully you aren't a true fan.

Been there too. There are still guys in bands that I think are attractive, but I've had to learn to look past that to truly focus on the band's music. It's not like you can put on blinders or suddenly see everyone in the world as ugly, so there's not really going to be a time when you never see an attractive person. It's all about where your focus is. If the only reason you are interested in a musician is because of how they look, it might be time to reassess.

I've been to concerts where I just closed my eyes through the whole thing just so that I could focus on the music and only the music. And a couple of those turned out to be some of the best concerts I've been to even though I didn't really see a thing. haha

[Labby]

Been there too. There are still guys in bands that I think are attractive, but I've had to learn to look past that to truly focus on the band's music. It's not like you can put on blinders or suddenly see everyone in the world as ugly, so there's not really going to be a time when you never see an attractive person. It's all about where your focus is. If the only reason you are interested in a musician is because of how they look, it might be time to reassess.

I've been to concerts where I just closed my eyes through the whole thing just so that I could focus on the music and only the music. And a couple of those turned out to be some of the best concerts I've been to even though I didn't really see a thing. haha

I was once accused of liking a female singer just because she's cute (I normally hate girl singers).

However, the person couldn't really respond when I pointed out that I had wanted to go see the singer in a cafe, as well as possibly bring her in to play at my church, long before I had seen what she looks like. The girl has an amazing voice, mad guitar skills, and is a very talented songwriter. Her stuff was unbelievable.

[Kelly]

I'm not a huge fan of female singers myself (there are a select few that I love), so I always get accused of liking the guys because they're "hot". The way I see it, that just shows immaturity on the accuser's part to automatically assume that the only reason a musician's daughter would like a musician is because he's "hot". Forget the fact that I grew up around music and can't get through a day w/o listening to it :p

[krazyyouth]

yeah...most of us are guilty of that. I admit like I do think guys in the bands I like are cute but that isn't the reason I like the bands. actually most of my favorite bands I would listen to their music and then see pics of them...so I liked them before I even saw them. If that is a reason why you like a band then truthfully you aren't a true fan.

yea i know, i know, but now i just really enjoy his music and all.. and when i watch some of the videos they posted i crack up laughin' at one of his songs because he is pretty silly (like a bobblehead), but that's his personlalty and i can notice his laugh anywere and some of his songs he laughs at the beinging and the end but its the songs that are just a good song toe taping things like that , Wit the other song he does you can tell thathes being seious, but he leads worship and all,at the church he goes to,
I dont have a crush on the band, i really like i to listiend to their music becuase its good, and sometime the songs speaks to me that they sing, the lead singer dosent know that yet, hopfully he will sometime soon, i hope i will beable to tell him and that and i have also put a message that i found in his song and compare it to one of his songs, callled "Secret Place" well i should be going

[Toddrick33]

Ah, yes I've had to tone down some of my posts compared to what I wanted to post... I feel like a giddy school girl after going to J's concerts!! And I usually clarify that I love J as a brother in Christ, and point out that we are not best friends.

But then again, fireproof has been here long enough to know what the music and the Jesus in J means to me. :cool:

(And why was I not listed as one of the cool people you'd want to meet!?) ;)

[JC#1Nashvillefan]

yeah I am sure

[fireproof]

Ah, yes I've had to tone down some of my posts compared to what I wanted to post... I feel like a giddy school girl after going to J's concerts!! And I usually clarify that I love J as a brother in Christ, and point out that we are not best friends.

But then again, fireproof has been here long enough to know what the music and the Jesus in J means to me. :cool:

(And why was I not listed as one of the cool people you'd want to meet!?) ;)

Todd you are on the list of cool people id want to meet but as you had been conspicuously absent in the time period up to the posting of said rant people may not have know who i was refering to, so to enforce my point i used names and faces of people who are here on a fairly regular basis.

Though i do still think the pink t-shirt was wrong on so many levels :D

[Toddrick33]

Todd you are on the list of cool people id want to meet but as you had been conspicuously absent in the time period up to the posting of said rant people may not have know who i was refering to, so to enforce my point i used names and faces of people who are here on a fairly regular basis.

Though i do still think the pink t-shirt was wrong on so many levels :D

Your posts always make me smile. :D

And this one was actually coherent! LOL ;)

[Wheels4Jesus]

(And why was I not listed as one of the cool people you'd want to meet!?) ;)

You are on my list Todd. ;)

[fireproof]

Your posts always make me smile. :D

And this one was actually coherent! LOL ;)

one aims to please!